Podcast Episodes
Episode 29: Coping with Racial Stress with Dr. Howard Stevenson
What does Cross racial solidarity look, sound and feel like? Elizabeth and Liza speak with Dr Howard Stevenson about the need to acknowledge racial stress so that we can be authentic and antiracist in our cross racial relationships.
What does Cross racial solidarity look, sound and feel like? Elizabeth and Liza speak with Dr. Howard Stevenson about the need to acknowledge racial stress so that we can be authentic and antiracist in our cross racial relationships.
Episode 28: Cross Racial Solidarity
In this episode, Jenna and Liza talk with a cross racial team, Dr. Tabitha Moore and Erin Maguire, from Vermont public schools about how they have been able to build a successful collaboration across race to effect greater change.
In this episode, Jenna and Liza talk with a cross racial team, Dr. Tabitha Moore and Erin Maguire, from Vermont public schools, about how they have been able to build a successful collaboration across race to effect greater change.
Episode 27: Our New Co-Host: Liza Talusan!
Jenna Sits down with our new co-host Liza Talusan to discuss principled partnerships across race.
Episode 26: Why Tracking Doesn’t Add Up
In this episode, we interview two teachers who detracked their math classes. We also spoke with some of their students to find out the impact of tracking and how we can make math literacy more equitable for all.
Resources for our Series on Detracking
(Ep 24) Kevin Welner and Prudence Carter, Closing the Opportunity Gap: What America Must Do to Give Every Child an Even Chance.
(Ep 25) John Diamond and Amanda Lewis, Despite the Best Intentions: How Racial Inequality Thrives in Good Schools
Edutopia: Moving Beyond Status in Math Class
Detracking, AVID atmosphere may improve students’ health, psychosocial outcomes
https://corp.smartbrief.com/original/2023/05/detracking-psychosocial-outcomes
NCTM: Catalyzing Change in Middle School Mathematics
Rethinking Mathematics: Teaching Social Justice by the Numbers
Episode 25: Despite the Best Intentions
Jenna speaks to John Diamond and Amanda Lewis about their book, Despite the Best Intentions: How Racial Inequity Thrives in Good Schools. They discuss how white teachers and white parents can perpetuate racial disparities, despite their best intentions.
Episode 24: As a Matter of Track
In this episode, Jenna speaks with Kevin Welner about the system of tracking, or ability-based groupings, and the large racial disparities in Gifted and Talented and Honors classes. Kevin Welner is a white, male professor in the School of Education at the University of Colorado Boulder, and directs the National Education Policy Center. He specializes in educational policy and law and is the author of several books, including co-editor with Prudence Carter of Closing the Opportunity Gap: What America Must Do to Give Every Child an Even Chance.
Episode 23: Parenting While White (Part 2): The Collective Impact of White Parents on Schools
Jenna spoke with Ellen Guettler about her decision to move her children out of a predominantly white school in Minneapolis.
Episode 22: Talking to Young, White Children About Race, with City Love
In this episode, Jenna speaks with Brian Caselli Jordan and Qiana Ganges of the band, City Love. They have a children’s album and do assemblies that help give kids the language to talk about difference and how to treat each other with love and respect. Learn more about City Love here.
Episode 21: Parenting While White (Part 1) -- Talking to White Kids About Race
In this episode, Jenna speaks with Mollie Monahan, founder of Social Justice Kids, and Debby Irving, racial justice educator and writer, about the need for talking about race with white children and some strategies for how to do it — along with some mistakes and lessons learned. Here are some resources for talking to white kids about race: Social Justice Kids Raising Race Conscious Children Beyond the Golden Rule Here is the music from City Love that we featured at the end!
Episode 20: Engaging Resistance, CRT, and What’s Best for Kids, Part 2
In this episode, Jenna sits down with educator, coach, author, and podcaster Kimberland Jackson to discuss how she thinks about talking about race with students and the resistance she encounters.
Episode 19: Engaging Resistance, CRT, & What’s Best for Kids, Part 1
In this episode, Jenna sat down with Nicole Post, an elementary school teacher from St. Louis. Nicole describes how she met with and challenged the resistance she faced from parents when teaching about race and racism in her classroom.
Episode 18: Brand New Pandemic, Same Old White Supremacy
Elizabeth sat down with Thu Ahn Nguyen to discuss the ways that the pandemic has highlighted white supremacy in schools. Be sure to read her blog by the same title.