Podcast Episodes
Episode 17: Elena Aguilar on Coaching for Equity
In this episode, Elizabeth sits down with Elena Aguilar to talk about how race shows up in coaching relationships.
In this episode, Elizabeth sits down with author and coach Elena Aguilar to talk about how race shows up in teacher coaching relationships.
Episode 16: Racial Identity for White People with Dr. Janet Helms
Jenna sat down with Dr. Janet Helms to talk about her research on White racial identity development. Dr. Helms describes how her work can be a pathway towards establishing an antiracist White identity.
Jenna sat down with Dr. Janet Helms to talk about her research on White racial identity development. Dr. Helms describes how her work can be a pathway towards establishing an antiracist, White identity. You can check out the book that informed this work here.
Episode 15: Mockingbird in the Classroom: The Student Experience
As a follow-up from To Teach or To Kill a Mockingbird, in this episode we hear from a group of multiracial students about their experiences reading this iconic novel in school.
Episode 14: No Neutral Zone
In this episode, Jenna speaks with William Yepes, a Spanish teacher in Cambridge, MA who is originally from Colombia. William talks about the false notion of "remaining neutral," and how his journey to becoming a US citizen defined his identity and his teaching practice.
Episode 13: Beyond the Bookclub: Antiracism in Action
What can White teachers do in this moment to take action in the midst of the duel pandemics or Covid and Racism? Our guests, Jose Vilson, and Kelly Wickham Hurst give their insights as two educators who are leading efforts to move schools towards antiracism.
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Examining White Privilege ft. Elizabeth Denevi & Jenna Chandler-Ward - Third Space with Jen Cort Podcast
Founders of Teaching While White Elizabeth Denevi and Jenna Chandler-Ward join third space to discuss white privilege, white allyship, white saviorism and more.
Episode 12: Hate Groups Recruiting White Students
Shelly Tochluk and Christine Saxman have been investigating White supremacist organizations and their tactics for recruiting White youth. Join us for a discussion about the importance of having explicit conversations about race and what teachers and parents can do to support White students
Shelly Tochluk and Christine Saxman have been investigating White supremacist organizations and their tactics for recruiting White youth. Join us for a discussion about the importance of having explicit conversations about race and what teachers and parents can do to support White students.
Episode 11: Schools Succeeding at Failure with Tim Wise
What if schools are doing exactly what they were meant to do? What if they were designed to only educate the elite few? Warning: This episode contains swearing, which, given the topic, feels appropriate.
What if schools are doing exactly what they were meant to do? What if they were designed to only educate the elite few? Warning: This episode contains swearing, which, given the topic, feels appropriate.
Episode 10: Recovering the Voice of Native Americans in the Classroom
How are objects from Native American cultures used without context in schools? What are we still teaching about Thanksgiving? In this episode, Jenna sat down with Claudia Fox Tree to talk about how invisible Indigenous culture is in most schools.
In this episode, we speak with Claudia Fox Tree, a Native American teacher, about the ways we learn about Indigenous Peoples in school- or don’t.
Episode 9: Challenging the Canon - Part 2
In this episode, we learn about Project Lit, which was started by teacher Jarred Amato and his students at Maplewood High School. We hear from Jarred and his former student/Co-founder, Jakaylia about the need to rethink how we create readers and writers. Jarred has since switched schools and Jakaylia is now a Freshman in College, but Project Lit is still going strong.
In this episode, we learn about Project Lit, which was started by teacher Jarred Amato and his students at Maplewood High School in Nashville. We hear from Jarred and his former student/Co-founder, Jakaylia about the need to rethink how we create readers and writers. Jarred has since switched schools and Jakaylia is now a Freshman in College, but Project Lit is still going strong.
Episode 8: Challenging the Canon - Part 1
Who decides what books are worthy of study and which voices are included in the literary canon? Interviews with Tricia Ebarvia and Jack Hill.
Who decides what books are worthy of study and which voices are included in the literary canon? Interviews with Tricia Ebarvia and Jack Hill.
Episode 7: White Fragility - Part 2
We speak with white teachers, teachers of color, white students, and each other to uncover the cause and impact of white fragility.
We speak with white teachers, teachers of color, white students, and each other to uncover the cause and impact of white fragility. With Dr. Kimberly Parker, and Afrika Afeni Mills